Hi wwweb and Mohammed. I never stated the gem comes with a val. cert. on the auction nor after the auction. Mohammed, I told you a val. cert costs arond R600 and nonone on bob is willing to pay this over and above the stone they bid on, hense why it was never stated on the auction. therefore i return your rating with kind simply because you did not read the auction first before bidding I deserve a neutral rating? well likewise i guess.